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Discussions will take place concurrently in 4 meeting rooms, on 2 round tables on the lawn, at the A.D gordon club, at Berl's Bar (Cafeteria), and on the Veranda. We will assign some times  and spaces, and have a signup board in the camp where you will be able to schedule addition meetings and re-schedule changes.
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Feel free to add a new discussion topic, under a new or an existing category. You may also add a a new category even if you do not have an idea for a topic under it - just add it to the suggested category list below. [Please try to avoid messing up the format of the page! I takes ages to clean up, signed: Martha the tea lady] NEW! Mission Possible from National to International
This session will focus on how to successfully grow a company and expand into the international arena. Ahlvarsson will share his experience during the last 7 years and provide insights and tools that have worked in taking companies international. Lead By: Ola Ahlvarsson.
Participants: <..> Real World Stuff
So you are a techie/hippi/etc, but you were always interested in how real stuff works
Face it, you always wanted to know how an engine works, like a real car's engine, or a train's engine, stuff like that. Well I know I do. So I read about it and here I am willing to put it into practice, by trying to explain it to a bunch of people who know nothing about it, and would really like to get the knak on this one.
I will also try to demonstrate a small-scale Stirling-Engine I'm currently building from Cherry-Coke Cans.
Lead By: Ohad Pressman.
Participants: <Shimon Schocken, Erez Chocva. Gadi Shimshon..> NEW !!! Standarts? In Israeli mega-sites? Most of the major Israeli websites don't support the W3 standards. I have started a project regarding this issue. I have some ideas on how to change this situation (Prior to concurring and enslaving the world), that I like to share and get your worthy input. I do believe that this issue can be addressed from more then the "it's a Firefox vs Explorer geek thingy" perspective. Lead by: Gadi Shimshon Participants: Dvir Volk, Jordan Lewinsky, Ido Amin, Yaniv Golan , Ofer Shani, Dov Alfon,
A world without "barriers"?
Listen, I've just invented a mobile phone with a negligible radioation. You can too!
Inventing such a phone is essentially a matter of a simple thinking exercise, would you believe it? How can great ideas be born and make it to the real world if they don't have what VCs call "barrier"? Are those good ideas doomed? Postponed? So, what if your great idea can change the Internet? The communication scene?
Lead By: Alon Gal.
Participants: <Ami Kassar...,Erez Chocva, Ushi Krausz, Yaniv Golan >
NEW !!! show me the trafficccccccc!! Sometimes, its not enough to build an amazing site, with brilliant features and great interface - if u can't drive traffic into it - all your work goes down the drain. Almost every web based product/service/tool - needs traffic as humans need air to breath. This discussion is all about sharing different views, ideas and techniques of driving traffic into websites. Among other topics, we'll deal with (feel free to add more topics): The blogosphere as a marketing tool, Technorati, Social networking marketing, buzz agents Viral marketing and applications, content syndication, rss measuring tools, reporting standarts, Google analytics, Alexa, ... The upsides and downsides of SEM Do search engines still do the job (in the age of brilliant SEO specialists)? Lead by: Ofer Shani Participants: <guys, let's join forces and share our knowledge about this> Noa Bichovsky, Ola Ahlvarsson, Gadi Shimshon, omer malchin, Dov Alfon,
The internet and the human condition
Attention Management and the desperate information age individual.
The ever expanding influx of information is threatening to drown us. As we surf into the 21st century, we face information overload from an ever expanding list of sources: from main-stream media outlets through blogs, wikis and social networks, to thousands of RSS feeds. How are we supposed to survive? In this session we will discuss attention managers, attention management and attention overload. Or not.
Lead By: Jordan Lewinski.
Participants: Michal Rinott,Cristiana Falcone, Scott Spirit, Yariv Nachshon, Maya Lotan, Ami Kassar, Yael Sahar, Ushi Krausz,Erez Chocva, Neora, Roostam Tiger, Yaniv Golan p.s: Jordan. couldn't ressist...the answer called CAP -continuous partial attention (ami).
In the past year, The Internet Vigilantes have become an increasingly apparent force. Ranging from the obvious, such as consumer groups, to the less obvious man-hunts and spam fighting. Since the last Kinnernet, a Korean woman has had her dog poop on subway and refused to clean it up. The ensured, blog-based (wo)man hunt made such a splash around the globe that it got its own wikipedia entry. An Israeli company called Blue Security offers the (highly contorversial ) opportunity to take spam matters into your own hands and spam the spammers in yet another display of Internet Vigilante. Eden Shochat will dissect these examples and open the stage for discussion by: Yariv Nachshon, David Aronoff
The decline of broadcast television and the rise of web-based personalized video delivery are around the corner. Why settle for unsolicited trash also known as TV programming when one can pick and play any video contents of one's choosing, any-time, any-place? Come join me in celebrating the eminent demise of conventional TV and cable and speculating about the post-broadcast brave new TV world. Lead By: Shimon Schocken. Participants: nimrodlehavi, Ayelet Yagil, Gil Rimon, Eden Shochat,Cristiana Falcone, Scott Spirit, Mark Bernstein, Ami Kassar, David Aronoff, Yael Sahar, Jonathan Seelig, Ushi Krausz,Erez Chocva,Yariv Nachshon, Nish Bhutani, Yaniv Golan, Ori Birnbaum, Ola Ahlvarsson
NEW !!! The Science of Ripping Off People (or: The Economics of Making Money from People's Ignorance and Irrational Decisions)
A good product is worthless, advertising can be useless, a brand is a much greater force once you understand what's behind it. This lecture will condense Yochai's popular MBA course into one lecture full of high level state-of-the-art economics, MADE EASY.
A revised and improved edition to the lecture from Kinnernet 2004, given again at the audience's request.
Lead By: Yochai Rafaelli
Participants: Ohad-P, Gadi Shimshon, Roostam Tiger, Yaniv Golan
NEW !!! Why user generated content sucks (and editorial content blows) Web2.0(tm) is all about user generated content, communities, blogs and such. Clearly user generated content is partly responsible for the way the web is today. But is the hype justified? and what is the right balance between user generated and editorial content on the web? Can a mainly editorial site even survive?Lead by: Dvir VolkParticipants: Gadi Shimshon, Lior Katz, Ido Amin, Yaniv Golan , Ofer Shani, Ola Ahlvarsson, omer malchin
The coming disruption of traditional book publishing The book publishing industry including fiction will soon face disruption like that currently experienced by telcos. The cost of online distribution is near zero. Blogs are the new platform for online books (blooks). Online promotion - especially through the blogosphere - is both cheaper and more effective than traditional publisher promotion. Amazon will sell the works of any author - self-published or not. Print-on-demand makes out-of-print obsolete. The "long tail" is threatening to wag the dog. How will it pay out? What is happening and what needs to happen? what are the implications?
Lead by: Tom Evslin.
Participants:nimrodlehavi, Ayelet Yagil, ErezChocva, Scott Spirit, Mark Bernstein, Shimon Schocken, Ami Kassar, Yael Sahar, Ushi Krausz, Neora (pls comment on Muglegim related story (prose)), Yariv Nachshon, Noa Bichovsky, Dov Alfon (coming to his own funeral), Social software Can Social Software change politics? Taking place a couple of days after the general elections to Israel's 17th parlament, we will discuss the use of the web generally and social-softwere specifically in this zone. What worked and how? What didn't and why? Will the web create an emergent democracy? How is it done in other countries? More than an ideological debate on 'why did the guy I vote for lost/won?' it will be a debate on the role of technology in all of the above.
Lead by: Mushon
Panel Members:
Participants: ErezChocva,Cristiana Falcone, Ami Kassar, mark pincus, Jonathan Seelig, Roostam Tiger, Yaniv Golan, Noa Bichovsky,
Virtual worlds and reality addiction
We're all gonna die !!! (and be resurrected in Stormwind)
Online MMOs are better than real life in any way , and i'll prove why...
Also - we're all playing the so-called ultimate virtual game - money™ (and no, money doesnt exist)
Lead by - Ilan Graicer
Extra footage from World of Warcraft (movies to be shown at discussion)
Participants : Yael Sahar , Ushi Krausz, Neora, Gadi Shimshon, Noa Bichovsky, Ofer Shani Open Source and the Long Tail of Software
How does the now famous Long Tail relate to software, What does Open Source has to do with it and how does the world of computing will look like in 5 10 years - from licenses to services, CORE (Cost Of REcall) value and a world of ends: discuss, explain, think, partcipate.
Lead by: GBY
Participants: [ Shimon Schocken, ... ]
Web 2.0 Killed the internet! Blogger/.Mac/Zazzle/RSS/(and more...) - and how they're killing the real internet spiritDid the ease of content publishing kill the spirit of innovation?How the McInternet (blogger/israblog/flickr Etc.) did affect the gourmet menu of private web sites?Are bloggers just a horde of zerglings rushing over our land? Is cyberpunk dead
Lead by: Ziv Pugatch , Ilan Graicer ++
Participants: Yael Sahar, Lior Katz Web 2.0, Net 3.0 and Meme 3.5. The Web 2.0 moniker is the driving force behind the current crop of net startups. What stands behind the web 2.0 buzzword, is it here to stay or are we just waiting for the next meme to surface. we will start with a review of the origin and present condition, and go into a group discussion about the future.Plus, an optional bonus short presentation: "How to make your site web2.0 compliant in less then one day Lead: Jordan Lewinski
Participants: Uri baruchin (web2.0 cheat sheet) nimrodlehavi, ErezChocva, Cristiana Falcone, Scott Spirit, Lior Katz, Neora, Noa Bichovsky, Ola Ahlvarsson How to recognize the Next Killer App(TM)
"What's Wrong" or how have we, as an industry, failed, missed the target, and looked under the lamp, instead of where we should really be looking. See the What's Wrong Page for more information.
Full Time blogging- a possiblity in Israel?The last year has seen a large growth in the number of indipendent bloggers using systems like WordPress. Since any income will now go to the blogger and not to the blogging service, the question is: are we going to see Israeli bloggers make their blog their dayjob? Is there the will, and more important- the means for such a thing?
Lead by: Shoshannah
Participants:
The Browser- reloaded.If you look at it, the web browsers haven't really changed since the days of mosaic, athlugh the web changed a lot. What was once a tool for viewing static documents is now a platform for running applications, managing (and wasting) our time and a general interface to a increasingly complex cyber world. So- apart from tabs an built in IM: what really needs to change in browsers? Are they still fit for the job? Should tommorow's browsers be different? In what way?
Lead by: Shoshannah
Participants: Ami Kassar, Yael Sahar, Yaniv Golan
My Avatar and Me.Social hierarchies in online communities and the contribution of the classic RPG model ala Gary Gygax to the development of MMOGs. What constitutes the online "you"? What is your online worth within your online community where virtual resources are unending? Can our online entity be defined as a very elaborate character sheet? Can the machine really replace the DM (or at least one that is worth a damn)?
Lead by: Ronen Raz
Participants:  Ilan/Zinta, Yael Sahar, Jonathan Seelig
(knowledge of old school D&D is preferred, but is not necessary)
The Future of Musical Expression : how can technology be used to produce devices that allow music playing and manipulation to be more intuitive than ever ? what is "intuitive music manipulation" anyway ? This discussion will be followed by a garage workshop where we will try to implement some of our ideas.
Lead by : Eyal Shachar
Panel members : Michal Levi, Shira Miasnik
Participants : Guy Vardi, Ayelet Yagil, Gil Rimon, On, Eden, Michal Rinott, Yael Sahar
The future of dating. As we continue to lose privacy on the web and leverage this hugh marketplace of people to meet, how does it change the rules of 'dating'. And as people break relations and turn back to the web to find the "Next one", what can be done to address this situation? - Led by Yariv Nachshon with participation by Mark Tebbe (early project manager of a major U.S. dating site and creator of successful US-oriented dating business), Hagai Tal (Former Marketing Magnager Spark Networks)- Taking the desktop to the Web
- can the vision prposed by Sun Micro a decade ago ("the network is the computer") finally come true? what benefits does it bring to users? what technologies can make it happen? - lead by ORI SOEN. Participants: Yaniv Golan , ..
Intellectual Property & and the moral issue: following the Israeli scriptwriter strike against the HOT cable company, I hope to get some answers to intriguing questions: Most of the anti-royalties thinkers say it is impossible to maintain the current IP system - but is it Morally right to get money from something your father has written or invented? Are royalties good for art and culture or only for the artist's wallet? Can art be economically quantified?
Lead by Gil Rimon
Panel members: Hanan Cohen
Participants - Neora, Yaniv Golan ,Dov Alfon, ...
podcasting anyone ? (suggested by Eyal Shachar, don't expect me to lead this, i haven't got the slightest clue. will be participating willingly, thoug) (From the success of Madonna's confession podcasting, avertised on my space, to the potenitial of videocasting this format deserves attention and why not a daily feed from the camp? Cristiana Falcone) Scott Spirit
SWARMS - The main theme of the discussion regarding SWARMS, will be about the insights that we can learn from mother nature and apply into engineered SWARMS. Following an introduction, the forum participants will discuss various ideas regarding Real World SWARMS. [Arik,are you referring to http://www.swarms.org/? - some background would help...]. http://www.swarms.org is one good source. Also stuff on "Ant Colony" / "Ant Colony Optimizaion". More stuff in : http://www.swarm-robotics.org.
Lead by : Arik Yavnai
Participants: Eden Shochat, Yoram Avidan
Is there a viable business model for offering open source websites for small organisations? - As a consultant to small and medium size Third Sector organisations, I feel they better get a website built on open source applications. The problem is that currently there is no business model that can make this more profitabble for the providers WHILE making it cheaper for the organizations. In this discussion I want to bring together the best thinkers (available only on Kinnernet) and bang our heads together on this issue.
Lead by: Hanan Cohen, Participans: Ushi Krausz
following the Israeli scriptwriter strike against the HOT cable company, I hope to get some answers to intriguing questions: Most of the anti-royalties thinkers say it is to maintain the current IP system - but is it right to get money from something your father has written or invented? Are or only for the ? Can art be economically quantified?Lead by The mobile thing- This discussion is intended to brain strom on the linkage? between the mobile (cellular) space and the internet, addressing issues such as content, mobility, business models, advertisment and culture. Is there such a thing as "mobile internet", Will we watch a movies from a 2" screen?...
Lead by : Gilli Cegla,
Participants: Cristiana Falcone , Scott Spirit,Yariv Nachshon , Ori Birnbaum Wireless Internet Vs. Cellular
Can WiFi networks be an infrastructure that can compete with Cellular?
Will WiMax compete with cellular, or is it a cellular technology?
In this open discussion we will consider how wireless internet technologies can become a competitor to cellular, and under which scenarios. What are the main barriers, and who are the companies that are in this space, and more...
Lead by: Elad Barkan,
Participants: Tamir Scherzer, Roy Klieger, Technology and Finance. Investment and Trading in the Internet Era. This will be more of a brainstorm/discussion. We will focus on changes, challenges and opportunities Internet brings to investment industry, both corporate and private. We will start with short introduction and then open a discussion trying to get answers to the questions like "Will corporate investment vanish soon?", "What new business models may be employed using Internet?", "Will markets eventually become efficient?", etc.
Lead by: Roostam Tiger and Eden Shochat
Participants: Technology and Finance. Making Money As You Sleep: Algorithmic Trading - background, practical guide and the state-of-the-art survey. Computer-automated investment and trading: "This can't be done", "Everyone is doing it", "I have constant 30% yearly gains" and other popular sayings - what's behind them? What was done, what should be done and what should not be done. Ideas are mostly welcome.
Lead by: Roostam Tiger
Participants: Cool Science. Paradoxes Are Good For Your Business: An exciting interactive journey to all kind of paradoxes, their solutions and valuable lessons from them: how not to trust your intuition and convince your investors/board/clients of anything you desire :).
Lead by: Roostam Tiger
Participants: Ido Amin
The limits of blogs - clueing up the cluetrain The Blogging phenomena is maturing. As the hype recedes, I believe understanding the limits of blogs as a publishing format & communication environment can help us utilise them better. To start the discussion I will try and present a concise "critique of blogging", using concepts from an eclectic collection of disciplines. I hope that together we can place it in a wider cultural context, and draw some rules of engagement.Lead by: Uri Baruchin
Participants: Yael Sahar, Gadi Shimshon, Yaniv Golan
On line Education - How are we (not) teaching?Various bodies and organizations within the educational system (both curricular and extra-curricular) are trying to merge education and learning content, with innovative IT tools. Many programs have failed as a result of the tendency to simply duplicate concepts and methods that were more suitable to existing communication tools (classroom – television – radio – books etc.). During this workshop, we will present various innovative models implemented at Tel Aviv University, which break the dichotomy between reality and media tools, in the service of education and academic experience. In addition to presenting existing models, I would like to present my wildest dreams for new models, and to receive your feedback. Lead by: Ushi Krausz Participants: Neora (see above entry on open source for education project in israeli/arab schools, shall we join the two?)
How to prove that you have no sister or better yet How to avoid having a sister to begin with.
The good guys' guide to survival in the jungle of privacy and security warriors. Why do you need an integrity assurance officer on board from the first day of your start-up? It's a wild world out there so you better be prepared.
Lead by: Idan Feigenbaum & Ariel Yarnitsky IT and Peace - Is a Virtual youth movment possible? What does it mean There are alot of talking and ideas concerning IT, Peace and social organizations, especially the concept of "Youth Movment". We would like to think together, whether it is possible, and what can be done, since we r working now on such model for some middle east countries.
Lead by Zika Abzuk and Ushi Krausz, Yaniv Golan
---------- The “Minority Report Society”? A Paradigm Shift in Policing Society Lead by: Nimrod Kozlovski In the “Minority Report”, society in the year 2054 no longer has murder as the Pre-Cognitive (Pre-Cogs), floating genetically modified humans, can foresee the future and alert the system about a crime even before it happens. The Pre-Cogs are hailed as the perfect technology –never wrong in predicting a crime and see nothing but the crime. The human cops are sent to apprehend the identified “criminal” before he acts, and the Pre-Cogs’ vision serves as the evidence that the crime has been prevented. Science fiction? Don’t be too quick to answer! Contemporary society is experiencing a paradigm shift in policing. We are changing from the common law enforcement system, which reacts to a crime after it occurs, to a proactive system of policing. There are several proactive policing tactics that all share some common principles: shifting the initiative from the criminal to the policing force; gaining access to operational intelligence prior to the commitment of a crime; getting control at effective intervention points for policing activity; and, crime-oriented policing that is tailored to the patters of a particular crime. Digital proactive policing is using experience gained in the field of artificial intelligence to construct predictive models about criminal and anomalous behavior, or profiles of potential perpetrators. There patterns are run against voluminous data about routine activities, which is collected without any particular suspect or criminal in mind. These models are used to prevent fraud, spam, securities manipulations and many other crimes and currently are examined as a solution to terror. The discussion will try to explore the scope of change in policing and understand its effect on the information society. What it is like to live in such a world? How the shift to a proactive policing may change the digital environment? Large scale innovationHard core web techThe media is the mediaThinking people, Thinking machinesVoip and video conferencingFaith in user interfaceOnline MusicOnline Games Changing the net?Security and privacyP2P Architecture And InfrastructureRobotsVisual Artsinternet enhanced collaborationWireless communicationsSmart(?) homeArt and TechnologyE-commerceAnimationRoboticsThe future of online musicINFRASTRUCTURETo chat with him is to know him? Or is it? Virtual versus physicThe Future of Entertainment Cellular contentUser ExprienceDesignPrivacySPAM and its long term influence on the NETAdd here a new category for discussion:- This discussion is intended to brain strom on the linkage? between the mobile (cellular) space and the internet, addressing issues such as content, mobility, business models, advertisment and culture. Is there such a thing as "mobile internet", Will we watch a movies from a 2" screen?... ------- |
